Too bad it triggered you, maybe try to stay away from sites that might not go along with the mob mentality and usual media narrative. Robert Craig KNICKERBOCKER was born on December 25, 1932 and passed away on May 15, 2015 in Tucson, AZ and is under the care of. So I did not post your comment about his answer to your inquiry. She folded it neatly around her arm. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. You wondered at times, which side he was working for. Plus, you do not let a newly appointed judge to criminal cases, preside over a high profile murder case when he has no experience whatsoever and has already prejudged the defendant dangerous to her children. Mind: Wrongful convicted. By the way, this not a Diane Downs is innocent blog. It is a lets examine the facts of the case with hindsight and try to explain some of the inconsistencies and the role of the media and crime writers. And lets wonder why the US think that letting people die in prison is the answer when most civilized countries have reached other conclusions. Wow. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. The case is old and the blog dated, but it is never too late to respond. Find Robert Knickerbocker's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. She managed to jump in the car after getting shot in the arm. I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. Without her daughters testimony and the lies about the gun, they could not have found her guilty in a fair trial. But it is not hard to see that the way this tape and her confession were obtained was not legitimate. Eventually, in early 1983, Knickerbocker told Downs that he was not going to leave his wife for her and that he did not want to be father to Downs children or any children, for that matter. Therefore, my understanding is that the original sentence is deemed indefinite with parole hearings every 10 years. I try to remain objective in spite of the media storm depicting the case in a certain way, which is not accurate in every aspect. You can check this link and go online to see her picture with Cheryl and the rest of the family. Speculative. Crime is entertainment and big money so this case will continue to be on the forefront and the same assumptions will be repeated over and over again. As for Diane, give me a break. I do not discuss her guilt or innocence because this is not what the blog is about, but I personally hope she is released one day. It surely was not due process. The Dignity Memorial brand name is used to identify a network of licensed funeral, cremation and cemetery providers that include affiliates of Service Corporation International, 1929 Allen Parkway, Houston, Texas. Christie could not speak but after some rehab, she said repeatedly that she did not know who shot them. Diane has not been deemed an ongoing public threat that I am aware of. Their theory was very shaky. 100% CAUCASIAN Our ethnicity data indicates the majority is Caucasian. It's surprising how much a musical selection can affect mourning. Police interviewed Steve Downs about his ex-wife and discovered that she owned a .22 caliber gun like the one used in the shootings. She was no mother of the year, I will grant them that, but a trial is supposed to be based on evidence. WTF? The couple married in November 1973, when Diane was only 18 years old. She then said she pulled over because she thought the stranger needed help. He was buried at burial place, Arizona. The character of the accused is not the main ingredient, especially that in this case, there was a lot of bashing going on in the media and in court. All of it is explained in the blog you didnt bother reading. Wasnt Mr. F supposed to be a child molester? Mission accomplished. Now if the shooter was this James Haynes guy, someone who apparently Diane Downs knew from buying drugs, then that would explain why she stopped in the middle of that road. So yes I think she did it, I think ration left her a long before she did itI think post pardum played in this, I think, she was scattered all over the map.againjust hearing it in her own words. Lori, I luv how you ended your comment Lets also remember that this is the US of A and we dont lock people up for being narcissistic, antisocial histrionic individuals. There was no blood on the front seats so Cheryl was laying down and Christie was asleep laying down and never witnessed anything. He was questioned, yes, but the police never had a reason to doubt him. Yes, I had filed for divorce and then I canceled it. I am not biased. Maybe because of her notoriety and the victims were children. is this a reason??? He strung her along, played with both womens emotions, and after saying he would join her in Oregon, reneged and stayed with his wife. The two mental disorders that cause excessive talking are Bipolar Disorder and Schizophrenia. Not speculative? This was all logged in Christies hospital reports and is found in the Appendix of the petition filed in Federal Court in 1996 in the section Hospital Reports. But people never want to touch the high profile cases where the defendant is not likable. Who Is Robert Knickerbocker? So appropriate! That poor girl. If you read the blog, it is because of the lie told by prosecutor Hugi that ignored the assessment of her therapist Dr. Jamison and was condemned by the psychiatrist that they were convinced to find her guilty. But the birth of little Danny did not make this bad boy change his stripes; he remained a cad and a destabilizing force in their lives. Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that they only had a few months to get Christie to talk, otherwise they could not keep her away from her mother any longer. Evidence from a ballistics expert. Just goes to show how difficult it is sometimes to find the truth. Being interested in a subject without bringing emotions to the table is always the most important step. 5. Related To . They were the small sacrifices. Regina, I love your comment! If not, why not? But you dont mention that she again has changed her story.. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. And Steven was free to follow her lead or not. Basically, I dont believe the site owner has produced enough proof of anything. She said She did it. I have no dog in this race. I hope this would never fly these days to separate wounded children from the only family members they have. The rest of the family? Mr. Jagger failed to challenge that competency. Page 40 of Case History. They already had made up their mind that Diane was the perpetrator so they laughed off the idea of the bushy haired stranger. The problem was that they could not find the gun anywhere and they had nothing on Diane. As a married man, the ball was in his court and he decided to go for it. Comments about the title of the website, the blogger, the bias, details like the word bipolar and when it was used when cyclothymic disorder was diagnosed by the person who treated the subject and there is an affidavit posted. I agree. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? Actor Robert Blake was found not guilty of the shooting murder of his wife. It was never a slam dunk. Many troubling elements of the case were discovered after the trial, but there was enough during the proceedings to be asking questions. When they assess the conduct of an inmate, what counts is mostly how she behaves inside through the years and if she shows violent tendencies. As a suggestion, I would love to see a like or dislike button for each comment. There are 3 court records for "Robert Knickerbocker" in "Pima County". Teams of people and detectives combed the area for months looking for the gun but it was nowhere to be found. The blogger continues, I am not one sided. Speculative? Her case was too public and they are afraid of public backlash. Yes, isnt it shocking that some people would voice that a faulty investigation does not matter? She was harshly judged because of her demeanor. I will talk to Dianes brother. Her children deserved the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It is normally done (in fact in many jurisdictions, can ONLY be done) by going through the process in a different state or county then the one the applicant works with. Robert V Knickerbocker, 65 Resides in Saint Augustine, FL Lived In Henderson NV, Ooltewah TN, Turlock CA, Tucson AZ Related To Audrey Knickerbocker, Bryce Knickerbocker, Sean Knickerbocker, Barbara Knickerbocker, Ian Knickerbocker Also known as Robert V Knickerbocke, Robert V E Knickerbock, Bob Knickerbo Includes Address (7) Phone (4) Email (4) A prosecutor inventing a new psychiatric category in court and labeling the accused is kind of unsettling. BUT the babies were put in Foster Care before any allegations were made Family has defended and backed Diane for her Innocence clearly from day one The state took them away from all family because family was and is the enemy She was a first time offender who has shown no violent tendencies and is afflicted with a mental illness. Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. Mostly, because it was poorly investigated and they focused on Diane solely the minute they met her. No matter how much Ive read, or how many of her constant at the time interviews I watch on YouTube, the things that come from her brain to her mouth never cease to amaze me. Diane Frederickson was born August 7, 1955 in Phoenix, Arizona. This was all logged in Christies hospital reports and is found in the Appendix of the petition filed in Federal Court in 1996 in the section Hospital Reports.. It appears that you have to be a perfect mother with no lovers and not afflicted with any mental illness to be considered innocent until proven guilty in America. Justice is all that is left. What was the justification? And of course, she added her own brand of paranoia, which is to be expected considering her personality disorder and what she went through. Find Robert Knickerbocker's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading online directory for contact information. One of them named Angel, called 15-year-old Christie on the phone. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. Tucson, Arizona, United States. Diane had spent three days in the hospital ingesting massive doses of Morphine, Demerol, Percodan, and visterol. Thanks for posting for readers. Postal Service to be closer to her parents. The court can just do an APR, Assignment of Parental Rights. Yes, but it is a fact that she was starting to say that she did not know who shot them when it happened. I lived in Eugene, Oregon for years. In my opinion, the investigation was too hasty and only focused on Diane. The children were in the hospital, it isnt like they could have taken them home. In the blog, there is a link on the subject of bipolar people who tend to laugh at the wrong time. Nowadays, this insanity would never be tolerated. This seems very punitive to have a law like this be retroactive. Shes where she belongs. But there were discrepancies; the tool marks did not matchand the detective lied on the stand about it. She got an apartment and I was going to move in with her. you quoted what diane said as to what happened When she resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. In her case it seems to be more a matter of punishment. Her father passed away in October 2017 after having fought relentlessly for her release. They had him micromanaged, and with the testimony of little Christie they were in business: argumentative ), Interesting suggestion. In 1979, headstrong Diane gave birth to Danny who was not Stevens biological son because he had no desire to be a father again. The children had a father. Did she act like a average person? The detectives and the state failed to act properly and it should not be an accepted practice. A sick kid who had a stroke and traumatized being pressured for weeks to remember her mother killing her? It probably was not salacious enough for her readers that she polled online to establish if there was enough interest in the story to fill her pockets with a definite blockbuster. Not that Dianes mental health was not a factor in her letter, but it was definitely taken out of context in some instances. I am not saying she is innocent. Detectives, like the hospital staff, were struck by Downs aloof attitude about the shootings and the fact that one of her children had been killed. It may take up to 1 hour for your comment to appear on the website. This is what Mrs Downs had to say about the situation. I am posting Jamesanswer: Yes the allegations were said and you cannot take back what was saideven if retracted A demonstration in court strongly suggested that the shooter had to be left-handed to have been able to shoot in the car at the right angle. According to Downs, they had visited a friend in the nearby town of Marcola and were driving back to Springfield along a lonely stretch of highway. At first I thought she did it, now I made further research and I dont know what to think. ..it is quite possible if she was tried in todays world, with the evidence they hadquite possible it would of went differentlywe been living in a society that pretty much demand 100% pure forensic evidence provenprobably over 10 years or longer, people expect trials to be that of a law and order TV show..I cant say thats a bad thing, or makes what happened in the 80s on back bad. I encourage you to read all the facts before being so sure that she was guilty or that she acted alone. 2023 Warner Bros. Would you seriously be confident enough to present your findings you mention in your article to Diane Downs children? As far as Hugi is concerned, it was a total conflict of interest. Besides, none of those diagnoses are illegal. Robert and Diane even decided toget matching rose tattoos, but as soon as the ink on her tattoo was dry, he refused to get his done. Nuts maybe, but not threatening. He should have let someone else handle the case or let someone else adopt the kids. But I am realistic. What about the affidavits of the guy who confessed to several people? Anyways. Q. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). As she walked away, Detective Welch called after her, If you dont testify against Steve, youre going to lose everything. Diane turned back to say, Show me proof, and walked away. In fact, I am surprised that people are not flabbergasted by the way this case was handled and tried and that what bothers them most is that I try to discuss it in a blog and dare defending this woman. So she could not have shot her kids at the distance determined by the state unless she changed her clothing and it did not come up at trial. They should have left her alone. And other inmates were released with worst backgrounds. I never read the Ann Rule book, but saw Small Sacrifices as a kid and have had an interest in this case ever since. If the goal was to get rid of them, why didnt she emulate her lesser half in this matter? Mr. Diane said that Cheryl was laying down on the front floorboard with the passenger seat pushed back. The only reason they kept her in prison even if she had all the right documentation and support, is because she is high profile. It does seem time has done worse to her. Brewer changed his mind. One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children: relevance? She also underwent a gun residue test that same evening that revealed no trace of gun powder on her hands. After graduation, Steven joined the Navy and Diane was sent to Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College where she failed miserably at remaining pure and chaste, not unlike most girls of her generation who rejected their strict religious upbringing. I am not sure of the exact timing of Dianes accusations but the Downs family did not only include the grandparents and they were never considered even before this nonsense. You say she made more of a fuss about her arm than about the injuries her children sustained. If a person were innocent of the crime they were convicted of this puts them in a no-win situation. But the Parole Board refused to hear her. Knicks habit of turning on and turning off their relationship was known to Diane long before he admitted it in court a year later (Appendix 81, page 1520, line 21): Q. Today, Diane Downs is 63 years old and sits in a California prison. I do have to take issue with this article about Diane Downs. She has come a long way. Just similar stuff.and that I guess, makes it easy for me to see how that song could of fueled her up.never underestimate the power if a song..what feels intense and exciting to you, may not to another, but shoot, anytime I hear pink floyd run like hell.takes me right back 1991 in the heat of my chase..for me, I got the answers I wanted from 89 when my friend said that about the Duran song and it involved in that case. I appreciate this whole blog just want to give you a heads up. Of course, her mental health has deteriorated. Knickerbocker, Robert C.Robert C. Knickerbocker, age 82 of Tucson, AZ, passed away on May 15, 2015 in Tucson. She then went through the State (Circuit) Court habeas corpus relief for four years to no avail. U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. N her parents didnt want custody of the children just like the father. 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