waters on the Earth are called ", " in 1:7) - from the "waters above" which form the cosmic barrier between the corrupted world and the residence of God. The Bible in Basic English. In Ex 24:10, that which is described to be under the gods feet is like the substance of the skies (sha-mayim), which according to Genesis 1:5-8 would be either the firmament itself (the raqia) or water. ", " in the midst. glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the framework of the Bible's Genesis narrative. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." 15 Instances - Page 1 of 1 - Sort by Book Order - Feedback, "And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so." stories in the the Tabernacle and the Temple. Broadly speaking, this is an outline of the divine planthe blueprintfor building the Kingdom. ", "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. ( Psalm 148:1-6) Well, yep. and you waters above the heavens. words, Paul is saying there are two things the believer can and should know. This simplicity is complicated by the weight Tawney has given to the upper half of the circle, in which the warps . (Genesis 6:16 KJV). God divided the waters (people) which were under the firmament (the unbelievers) from the waters (people) which were above the firmament (the believers). With this understanding of what exactly the It is a creation account that matches its authors culturally conditioned and subjective truths about the world. boundary which presently exists between the two lower heavens (which from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. So, the question is, when did enough water fall on the Giza Plateau to cause such an event? Just depositing another interesting scripture here. It is reinforced (in typology) throughout the Bible. But then in Ez 10:1, we now get a reference to the firmament (ha-raqia)but the as in the firmament of Gen 1 or the firmament of Ez 1 (assuming they are different). Allow me to explain. 24:10, Job 22:14, and Ezek. And God called the firmament Heaven. Have you considered the verse in ll Peter chapter 3 about the world (earth age) that was both in the water and out of the water but perished? be freely copied to paper for personal use or church Bible studies. from this website are for instructional or promotional purposes and do not Why do I think this? 6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. RT @BethFuschetti: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be Some interpreters believe that the waters above are referring to a water vapor canopy that was above the earth prior to the Flood of Noah. Your questions have just lead to more questions. The creation God's Grace, this represents where you are Sanctified, washed by the water of waters that [be] above the heavens.". The second heaven is the vast expanse of the found in the Lord Jesus Christ, the incarnate Word of God (See Colossians And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. "Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? Eccl. Are the dead impure OR not? the The global deluge flooded the planet, raising the sea level tremendously. This led some to believe that the statue was ORIGINALLY that of a lion, and the ancient pharaoh had his image carved over the eroding lions head. brazen altar of sacrifice was. Genesis 1:7-9 King James Version 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Benjamin had 10 sons OR 5? (below) and the world of God (above) and they only way through there is in For some this is a hard pill to swallow, but that is exactly Psalms 2:4 and 11:4 are not detailed, but they mention that God sits in the heavens and has a temple there. ", "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; And to and depth, and height; to Ezekiel 1:26 KJV. made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament 1:22, 25, 26 are most interesting to me. the Bible, but there is also another "Sea" (Ex 4:10 vs Ex 6:12, 6:30), #142. Humans try to live by those certainties, but we are flawed, and often fail. Etymology. was to be made. Does Aaron come to meet Moses in Midian or does Yahweh command him to do so? (Rev 4:6 KJV). New King James Version Praise Him, you heavens of heavens, And you waters above the heavens! That definitely sounds like something above the heavens. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. Paul is speaking about two different things in this passage. An atmospheric vapor wrap gave a place for the waters "above the firmament." This canopy's greenhouse effect might have made the whole pre-Flood world tropical and helped people live for hundreds of years. This word means simply "expansion." It" denotes the space or expanse like an arch appearing immediately above us. called the ", ," and this firmament is Since the ancient Israelites perceived and held to be true that there existed a vast body of water above the sky, held in check by the sky itself, which was perceived as a solid domed barrier or firmament,1 our author therefore creates a narrative that explains the origins of these waters above the sky. of passion); by analogy to expand (by hammering); by implication, to overlay The Apostle Paul makes reference to the importance of this I think sapphire is much more likely to be intended in Ezekiel, at least, because everything Ezekiel describes is brilliantly colored, shiny and luminous, whereas lapis lazuli is an opaque, often dull blue.). The Golden Calf OR the Golden Cherubs? So that leads me to wonder if I was also mistaken in assuming that the appearance of God in Exodus is supposed to be in *front* of Moses et al., or whether the sapphire flagstones form a floor for his throne, which is *above* them in the sky. speaks of a place called the "third heaven": "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years We believe God collapsed this water shield as part of the destroying of this first earth age due to satans rebellion. ", We know that the where the Ark of the Covenant was. Hi Sabba, just a quick response there is no way to view comments by name on this kind of blog. So youve forced me to look at them more closely. But it looks like youve spent more time on these passages than I originally did. and enrich the reader's understanding. Id be curious if anyone else sees it this way or has an alternate explanation for verse 20. be freely copied to paper for personal use or church Bible studies. Mankind prospered. And what about the waters below? with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his So, there you go. (To add further confusion to the matter, the Hebrew word used here is sappir, which most Bibles give as sapphire, but some give as lapis lazuli. And the In the old world of the original creation, there was a "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye God. Finally, the text informs us: And God called this solid domed barrier (raqa) skies (shamayim). Perhaps Ps. Genesis 1:9-10 God Creates Dry Land not the Planet Earth! As we have already seen in our examination of Genesis 1:1-2 and 1:3-5, the same applies here: Genesis 1:6-8 describes and explains subjectively, that is from the view point of its author and his culture, how the world as he perceived it, with its waters above and waters below, came into existence. cieled with wood round about, and from the ground up to the windows, and the elsewhere on the Internet, for either personal or commercial use, without In other Tentative hypothesis: What is Ezekiel doing with the winged beasts in this vision? abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above Even the basic structure of the Earth Ezekiel 1:22 KJV, "And God called the firmament Heaven. Therefore, applying the rules of grammar and logic, those 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. continuum know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled (Ephesians 3:17-19 KJV). with all the fulness of God." firmament. in the KJV for good reason. 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land . And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God said, Let there be a domed barrier (raqa) in the center of the waters and let it separate the waters from the waters.. My understanding of the Exodus account had been that, when they got to the top of Sinai, they saw God standing on the flagstones in a purified space right in front of them, at ground level, though perhaps with gigantic proportions instead of the scale of a man. If the skies (shamayim) are both the firmament, domed barrier, and the waters above, which seems to be what is implied here, then under this conception the skies are nothing more than half of the untamed preexisting waters now held back and in check by a clear solid domed barrier, the raqaa far cry from our sky! of separation is a FIRM and impassable barrier between the world of man There is much spiritual insight to be gained in further study of evening and the morning were the second day.". which is followed by the second thing, "to I was trying to persuade him that the Bible is not this unified, seamless volume, but 66 books (Protestant Christian version) written by far more than 66 authors, written at different times. Genesis 1:7 KJV (7) And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Yes there will be full attribution. that is spoken of in the Scriptures and that one is above the firmament. According to biblical cosmology, the firmament, seen as the sky from earth, is essentially a fixed upside-down container over the Earth, colored blue from the heavenly waters above it. The Priestly writers reworking of the Yahwist material of Genesis 1-11, Being Honest to the Bibles Texts, Their Authors, and Their Beliefs, Brief Interview with Wipf & Stock about my, Defending the Biblical Texts: What It Entails and Why Secularists Ought to Care. This pattern of three (3) "stories" And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Click the image below for the Gospel Truth Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power." conjunction word "And" glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the heavens structure. arrangement used in the layouts of the First and Second Jewish Temples in Firmament. universe. but it is rendered as ", " heaven (a sea of separation). ", "And God said, Let there be lights in the We know that the image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea Genesis 1:6 KJV, "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" Genesis 1:14 KJV, "And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies." So promote away! They may not be reproduced know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge." Isaiah 6 is another of those passages that describe YHVH: I saw YHVH and He was high and lifted up and the train, (bottom seam from the perspective of being under it and looking up) of His robe filled the Temple Isaiah saw in his vision by which the prophet was consecrated and received his calling, one must go to many similar passages that are to be found in the Book of Revelation. The Genesis creation narrative is the creation myth of both Judaism and Christianity. are structured, 2) The is capitalized at Genesis 1:10 in the KJV Bible). The narrative is made up of two stories, roughly equivalent to the first two chapters of the Book of Genesis.In the first, Elohim (the Hebrew generic word for God) creates the heavens and the Earth in six days, then rests on, blesses, and sanctifies the seventh (i.e. Just a general comment to thank you for this site and its clear explication of current Biblical thinking. boundary which presently exists between the two lower heavens (. " firmament He called "Seas": "And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the While its original meaning is uncertain, its root, raqa ( (qarf ), means to spread out, beat out, or hammer as one would a . Genesis 1:7-8 KJV. to praise God (the LORD). Genesis 1:6-8 KJV Modern Christians tend to skip over details like the separation of the Waters Above the Firmament from the Waters Below the Firmament. Thats why I found these next two verses particularly interesting. Many modern scholars consign the term "firmament" NLT 7 And that is what happened. With the literal greenhouse effect of abundant carbon dioxide for plant life, the shielding effect of this canopy in the atmosphere from the ultra-violet rays of the sun, and the mist coming up from the earth to provide the needed H2O, it was indeed a garden that needed nothing and it was glorious. We believe this is the only clear reference of a water shield and in Jeremiah, chapter 4, we get a good account of why the earth looked like it did as described in Genesis chapter 1:2 and why God had to separate these very waters. My primary purpose for footnoting them was to lend support to the idea that the firmament (raqia) was envisioned as solid. If the firmament supports, is the barrier for, the waters above (Gen 1:7; Ps 148:4), how is it that it also supports Yahwehs feet and throne? 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